The real story about Crist leaving the Republican Party

Let me say first that I am limited regarding what I can say about this due to my membership with the Local REC. I can however raise questions about why exactly Crist would run as an independent, possibly throwing the FL senatorial race to a democrat. Why would Crist do this if he is not a closet liberal (among other things)? Could this move have anything to do with Crist's cozy relationship with Obama? Was he possibly offered something such as a post in the White House to throw an election he can't possibly win? Does he realize that independents disapprove of him almost as much as Republicans because of his lack of action on necessary issues and his actions and support of issues near and dear to our favorite community organizer? I will say that I don't think that Crist will get even 10% of the vote and that the race will not be close enough for the puny vote he gets to make a difference. Between now and election time, Crist will have to announce what party he will caucas with. That will make a huge impact on how voters will feel about him going forward. Hint: There is only one party he can caucas with and that is the one in power. So, doesn't that make it more likely that Crist will split the democrat votes instead of Republican and independent (anti-Obama) votes?

Slap Chop (updated!)

Has anyone besides me noticed that there appears to be a "liberal brain drain" happening withthe far left bloggers? I am seeing it on the far left loon blogs, on TV news and even here with those who come here and disagree with us. Here is the wiki explanation of "brain drain"

Brain drain or human capital flight is a large emigration of individuals with technical skills or knowledge, normally due to conflict, lack of opportunity, political instability, or health risks. Brain drain is usually regarded as an economic cost, since emigrants usually take with them the fraction of value of their training sponsored by the government. It is a parallel of capital flight which refers to the same movement of financial capital. The term was coined by the Royal Society to describe the emigration of "scientists and technologists" to North America from post-war Europe.^[1] The converse phenomenon is brain gain, which occurs when there is a large-scale immigration of technically qualified persons. Brain drain can be stopped by providing individuals who have expertise with career opportunities and giving them opportunities to prove their capabilities.^{[citation needed]}

A good example of that is how Arianna Huffington (Huffpo) has recently called out Glenn Beck for "inciting violence" in America. Now when the murder rate of the district that mr. obama (who Huffpo supports) "organzied" as a community organizer is higher than the murder rate in Yemen, I can't help but wonder if maybe things aren't a tad off. Also, I went to see Beck and Bill-O doing their comedy show in Tampa. The traffic was bad enough to incite violence, yet there was none. Even the rednecks took a night off from aimlessly shooting their guns in the air. Meanwhile, in Obama's old district, there were 37.4 murders from the time the show started to the time it ended. (I'm just kidding, I really don't know how many murders there were in that district at that time as the cops flee from there after dark.) But seriously, our latest detractor has a real pension for name calling and mincing words. I am going to break down exactly what was said for accuracy and I will let you tell me who is right or wrong.

This all began over a comment I made regarding liberalism exchanging vice for freedom:

"Most "liberals" have that view about replacing freedom with vice. They support "legalizing" drugs, gay marriage, early pregnancy termination, etc. At the same time, they want to restrict how much toilet paper I can use. This leaves nothing positive to put back into society besides vice. I have libertarian leanings, and and while such views allow vice, they also allow achievement. In America, we "get" a luxury and a thousand laws come with it. Electricity was a luxury, but laws requiring use of electricity for home ownership. We got cars and roads, and lost property rights, had to buy insurance, pay taxes for road maintenance etc. If this doesn't stop, we will have have few luxuries because they will all be illegal."

(I will let you think of this comment what you choose)

So we get this comment from a totally new blogger who has never even read a post here:

Your comment is wild with paranoid thinking. I honestly don't know why you believe the United States is going to start rationing toilet paper any time soon, but I don't believe there is much I can do to free you from this belief. I do wish you a long and happy life, and may the great US socialist revolution never happen within said lifetime, forcing you to use one piece of tp at a time instead of two. Also admire your equation of legalizing a harmless drug like marijuana, gay marriage, and abortion rights with "vices". Not only are you entirely dismissive of other people's rights to hold different belief systems from you, but you go on to speculate wildly about things that would never happen in this country provided the resources to maintain our consumptive lifestyles continue to be plentiful. Some great libertarian stylin' there!

1.The socialist revolution has been happening for the last century, and as a historical footnote, unlike it's cousin communism, socialism is usually implemented gradually to prevent pro-liberty rebellions.

2. Whether we like it or not, homosexuality, drug use, even alcoholism, cigarette smoking and eating unhealthy foods are vices. There are rights and wrongs in life whether you agree with them or not. By your logic, murder would not be wrong, it would just be an "alternative lifestyle choice."

3."My comment is wild with paranoid thinking". If you read this blog for any length of time, you would know that I have a fairly good understanding of wild as I both have a wild animal is a pet, and take and interest in wildlife. I think I know the definition of wild, thank you.

4. Libertarian Stylin? I called a tuxedo shop asking to rent a suit with "Libertarian Stylin" to go see the Super Bowl 40 minutes' drive from here. They thought it was a prank call. I got the same reaction when I called a barber shop asking for a "Libertarian stylin" for my hair. And the local Lamborghini dealership could not could not get me a Murcielago with a "Libertarian stylin" paint or interior scheme.

So I responded at the time in this manner:

My pro-liberty stance is consistent. I do believe that right and wrong exist. That makes me a flat Earth Nazi, right? I stand by my beliefs that there is a right and wrong. Why, just because I take a chainsaw and cut an unborn baby from a womb in three pieces just before it is born doesn't mean I did anything wrong, right? First, I am for decriminalization of pot, by the way, but that doesn't change the fact that drugs, alcohol and things like prostitution are vices and offer nothing positive to a great society, and in fact were the undoing of the Roman and Chinese empires. Study a little history. You are the one pushing views on me that are totally biased and untrue. I suggest that you go over to the other post about gay marriage and actually read my comments on gay marriage where I state that we should GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MARRIAGES ALTOGETHER AND THEN LET CHURCHES DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO VIEW MARRIAGE.

I continue to stand by my statements as consistent with the views expressed here from the time I began posting here. So after KOOK gave a small reply that these comments are entirely consistent everything I have ever posted. Paranoid Joe responded in this way:

Well, I'm glad you've decided you're qualified to anoint yourself as the most intellectually honest and consistent blogger out there! No need to ask for judgment outside of your circle :P Seriously though, you seem to have assumed an awful lot about my beliefs from one post, and provided me with defensive and (again) paranoid replies. I'm not sure where I pushed any views on y'all, I just critiqued the things that were said. Surely that's why people post their thoughts on the internet? To create conversation? Or is this just shouting into the void? I happen to agree that the government should just do civil unions rather than marriages, but that would never fly with the fundamentalists in this country. The Roman and Chinese empires (which Chinese empire?) fell for myriad reasons. To imagine that prostitution caused the fall of the Roman empire isn't even in the realm of reducing a complex story to a simplistic idea, it's like you haven't even started talking about the topic yet. Also it is a topic I think is pretty much irrelevant except in the interest of historical study.

1.You pushed your views of morality on us.

2.Most people when they critique books or movies, writings or blog posts, don't begin with name calling and insults to the writers. We welcome debate here, but not when it begins by hurling insults. When you start by name calling, all you will be doing afterwards is shouting into the void because we don't care what you say anymore.

3.You don't know squat about history. Read about the "Opium war" that led to the enslavement of generations of Chinese to English opium grown in India.

4."To imagine that prostitution caused the fall of..." I said that vice caused the fall of the Roman Empire, not prostitution. Now is the time where I have to question either your intelligence or your honesty. To be nice I will assume that you are using one of those Dictatorial Slap Chops that Huffpo is selling to inexperienced wannabe liberals to pay for itself now that readership has fallen below MSNBC's 3 .1 people. (By the way, look at Vinny the slap chop salesman in the photo and ask him how prostitution helped his career)

5. History is relevant because it repeats itself. When the founding of our government was a model of the Roman Republic, and we as a nation are undergoing the same moral and social decay that led to the Roman Republic becoming the Roman Empire, it is absolutely relevant.

6. You were the one that went off topic with your rant about us or me being paranoid

7. You say I assume alot about your beliefs, but you put words in my mouth that are not true, such as I think the Gov. should do civil unions. I called for getting the government out of the Marriage game altogether. I challenge you to find any statement on this blog (all my work here is archived) where I called for government civil unions. My assumption about your beliefs is that they are wrong, and the way you put the slap chop on my statements proves that. Now, does archiving your work sound like the activities of someone that is paranoid?

So after I sent Joe Paranoid an e-mail saying I was using his comments in a post and inviting him to debate me I got this e-mail as a response:I don't really care. Can we end this correspondence now? I'm not planning on looking at your post. This is starting to be tiresome.

I guess we can put that in the win column, then.

Slap Chop (updated!)

Has anyone besides me noticed that there appears to be a "liberal brain drain" happening withthe far left bloggers? I am seeing it on the far left loon blogs, on TV news and even here with those who come here and disagree with us. Here is the wiki explanation of "brain drain"

Brain drain or human capital flight is a large emigration of individuals with technical skills or knowledge, normally due to conflict, lack of opportunity, political instability, or health risks. Brain drain is usually regarded as an economic cost, since emigrants usually take with them the fraction of value of their training sponsored by the government. It is a parallel of capital flight which refers to the same movement of financial capital. The term was coined by the Royal Society to describe the emigration of "scientists and technologists" to North America from post-war Europe.^[1] The converse phenomenon is brain gain, which occurs when there is a large-scale immigration of technically qualified persons. Brain drain can be stopped by providing individuals who have expertise with career opportunities and giving them opportunities to prove their capabilities.^{[citation needed]}

A good example of that is how Arianna Huffington (Huffpo) has recently called out Glenn Beck for "inciting violence" in America. Now when the murder rate of the district that mr. obama (who Huffpo supports) "organzied" as a community organizer is higher than the murder rate in Yemen, I can't help but wonder if maybe things aren't a tad off. Also, I went to see Beck and Bill-O doing their comedy show in Tampa. The traffic was bad enough to incite violence, yet there was none. Even the rednecks took a night off from aimlessly shooting their guns in the air. Meanwhile, in Obama's old district, there were 37.4 murders from the time the show started to the time it ended. (I'm just kidding, I really don't know how many murders there were in that district at that time as the cops flee from there after dark.) But seriously, our latest detractor has a real pension for name calling and mincing words. I am going to break down exactly what was said for accuracy and I will let you tell me who is right or wrong.

This all began over a comment I made regarding liberalism exchanging vice for freedom:

"Most "liberals" have that view about replacing freedom with vice. They support "legalizing" drugs, gay marriage, early pregnancy termination, etc. At the same time, they want to restrict how much toilet paper I can use. This leaves nothing positive to put back into society besides vice. I have libertarian leanings, and and while such views allow vice, they also allow achievement. In America, we "get" a luxury and a thousand laws come with it. Electricity was a luxury, but laws requiring use of electricity for home ownership. We got cars and roads, and lost property rights, had to buy insurance, pay taxes for road maintenance etc. If this doesn't stop, we will have have few luxuries because they will all be illegal."

(I will let you think of this comment what you choose)

So we get this comment from a totally new blogger who has never even read a post here:

Your comment is wild with paranoid thinking. I honestly don't know why you believe the United States is going to start rationing toilet paper any time soon, but I don't believe there is much I can do to free you from this belief. I do wish you a long and happy life, and may the great US socialist revolution never happen within said lifetime, forcing you to use one piece of tp at a time instead of two. Also admire your equation of legalizing a harmless drug like marijuana, gay marriage, and abortion rights with "vices". Not only are you entirely dismissive of other people's rights to hold different belief systems from you, but you go on to speculate wildly about things that would never happen in this country provided the resources to maintain our consumptive lifestyles continue to be plentiful. Some great libertarian stylin' there!

1.The socialist revolution has been happening for the last century, and as a historical footnote, unlike it's cousin communism, socialism is usually implemented gradually to prevent pro-liberty rebellions.

2. Whether we like it or not, homosexuality, drug use, even alcoholism, cigarette smoking and eating unhealthy foods are vices. There are rights and wrongs in life whether you agree with them or not. By your logic, murder would not be wrong, it would just be an "alternative lifestyle choice."

3."My comment is wild with paranoid thinking". If you read this blog for any length of time, you would know that I have a fairly good understanding of wild as I both have a wild animal is a pet, and take and interest in wildlife. I think I know the definition of wild, thank you.

4. Libertarian Stylin? I called a tuxedo shop asking to rent a suit with "Libertarian Stylin" to go see the Super Bowl 40 minutes' drive from here. They thought it was a prank call. I got the same reaction when I called a barber shop asking for a "Libertarian stylin" for my hair. And the local Lamborghini dealership could not could not get me a Murcielago with a "Libertarian stylin" paint or interior scheme.

So I responded at the time in this manner:

My pro-liberty stance is consistent. I do believe that right and wrong exist. That makes me a flat Earth Nazi, right? I stand by my beliefs that there is a right and wrong. Why, just because I take a chainsaw and cut an unborn baby from a womb in three pieces just before it is born doesn't mean I did anything wrong, right? First, I am for decriminalization of pot, by the way, but that doesn't change the fact that drugs, alcohol and things like prostitution are vices and offer nothing positive to a great society, and in fact were the undoing of the Roman and Chinese empires. Study a little history. You are the one pushing views on me that are totally biased and untrue. I suggest that you go over to the other post about gay marriage and actually read my comments on gay marriage where I state that we should GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MARRIAGES ALTOGETHER AND THEN LET CHURCHES DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO VIEW MARRIAGE.

I continue to stand by my statements as consistent with the views expressed here from the time I began posting here. So after KOOK gave a small reply that these comments are entirely consistent everything I have ever posted. Paranoid Joe responded in this way:

Well, I'm glad you've decided you're qualified to anoint yourself as the most intellectually honest and consistent blogger out there! No need to ask for judgment outside of your circle :P Seriously though, you seem to have assumed an awful lot about my beliefs from one post, and provided me with defensive and (again) paranoid replies. I'm not sure where I pushed any views on y'all, I just critiqued the things that were said. Surely that's why people post their thoughts on the internet? To create conversation? Or is this just shouting into the void? I happen to agree that the government should just do civil unions rather than marriages, but that would never fly with the fundamentalists in this country. The Roman and Chinese empires (which Chinese empire?) fell for myriad reasons. To imagine that prostitution caused the fall of the Roman empire isn't even in the realm of reducing a complex story to a simplistic idea, it's like you haven't even started talking about the topic yet. Also it is a topic I think is pretty much irrelevant except in the interest of historical study.

1.You pushed your views of morality on us.

2.Most people when they critique books or movies, writings or blog posts, don't begin with name calling and insults to the writers. We welcome debate here, but not when it begins by hurling insults. When you start by name calling, all you will be doing afterwards is shouting into the void because we don't care what you say anymore.

3.You don't know squat about history. Read about the "Opium war" that led to the enslavement of generations of Chinese to English opium grown in India.

4."To imagine that prostitution caused the fall of..." I said that vice caused the fall of the Roman Empire, not prostitution. Now is the time where I have to question either your intelligence or your honesty. To be nice I will assume that you are using one of those Dictatorial Slap Chops that Huffpo is selling to inexperienced wannabe liberals to pay for itself now that readership has fallen below MSNBC's 3 .1 people. (By the way, look at Vinny the slap chop salesman in the photo and ask him how prostitution helped his career)

5. History is relevant because it repeats itself. When the founding of our government was a model of the Roman Republic, and we as a nation are undergoing the same moral and social decay that led to the Roman Republic becoming the Roman Empire, it is absolutely relevant.

6. You were the one that went off topic with your rant about us or me being paranoid

7. You say I assume alot about your beliefs, but you put words in my mouth that are not true, such as I think the Gov. should do civil unions. I called for getting the government out of the Marriage game altogether. I challenge you to find any statement on this blog (all my work here is archived) where I called for government civil unions. My assumption about your beliefs is that they are wrong, and the way you put the slap chop on my statements proves that. Now, does archiving your work sound like the activities of someone that is paranoid?

So after I sent Joe Paranoid an e-mail saying I was using his comments in a post and inviting him to debate me I got this e-mail as a response:I don't really care. Can we end this correspondence now? I'm not planning on looking at your post. This is starting to be tiresome.

I guess we can put that in the win column, then.

Support for Our Troops, Not Homosexual Groups

We are approaching dangerous times. These times may make the 60's look like the 50's if the liberals don't end this assault on our freedoms!

Defense bill exploited to grant special rights to homosexuals and transsexuals
WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 /Christian Newswire/ -- The House of Representatives will vote today on the Department of Defense Authorization Bill, which funds our national defense and our troops in a time of war. An unrelated provision was added to the bill that would federally criminalize certain thoughts.

I know this is a secular blog but this is a violation of my religious freedoms and I will not sit by and let this happen. I know many other people that share this view.

The "hate crimes" provision would make "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" federally protected classes. A person accused of "prejudice based on the actual or perceived ... sexual orientation" or "gender identity" of a victim would face more severe penalties than a person accused of murdering their grandmother... This creates a class system of victims with preferences for those who choose to engage in unnatural sex acts.

So is a fag comes up and gropes me, he is protected under the law. When I bash his head in for doing so, I get charged with a felony?

Authoritative descriptions of "sexual orientation" have included crimin

al acts such as necrophilia and pedophilia.

Same scenario with your kids. A pedophile is protected under the law, while you defending your children is a "hate crime." There is no such thing as a hate crime. A crime is a crime. You have to hate to cause harm to someone. This simply extends special rights to anyone besides white Christians.

"The Defense Authorization bill should fund our national defense. Period. This 'hate crimes' provision grants special rights to certain political groups and could give cover to criminal behavior. This exploitation of a bill to fund our national defense shamelessly places homosexual groups' demands equal to or more important than our military," stated Wendy Wright, President of Concerned Women for America.

Thank you Concerned women of America. You are doing this country a great service by promoting this.

"'Hate crime' laws unduly expand the federal government. These crimes are already fully prosecuted by the states. 'Hate crime' laws allow prosecution for the same act twice, violating the Constitutional protection against Double Jeopardy. It creates a class of 'special' preferred victims, denying equal protection to other victims. It could cover every kind of sexual behavior, granting protected status even for pedophiles. And homosexual activists admit the whole effort is a scam to raise money and political power," Wright noted.

This will ultimately backfire on these pro-homosexual people causing the until now silent majority to turn against the queer minority where before they were able to live in our society unnoticed.

"Mary Stachowicz was brutally raped, stabbed and strangled to death by a homosexual man. Yet under this provision, this grandmother would be treated as less of a victim than an adult homosexual man who accuses a grandmother of swatting him."

I Believe this will ultimately lead to rioting and violence against those trying to take undeserved political rights when they already have a level playing field.

Concerned Women for America is the nation's largest public policy women's organization.

I hope they continue getting this message out. This will hurt women as well as men. This will also hurt racial minorities who will also get blamed for this. Taking equal rights from the majority to give rights to a minority is a recipe for a loss of civil rights for everybody which will lead to anger and violence. Nothing good will come of the concept of the hate crime. Let Me make myself perfectly clear: If you want to be homosexual, keep it out of my face and in your own house. Do not think for one minute that we will sit idly by while you and you DC lackeys make special protections for you at the expense of my God given rights.

Support for Our Troops, Not Homosexual Groups

We are approaching dangerous times. These times may make the 60's look like the 50's if the liberals don't end this assault on our freedoms!

Defense bill exploited to grant special rights to homosexuals and transsexuals
WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 /Christian Newswire/ -- The House of Representatives will vote today on the Department of Defense Authorization Bill, which funds our national defense and our troops in a time of war. An unrelated provision was added to the bill that would federally criminalize certain thoughts.

I know this is a secular blog but this is a violation of my religious freedoms and I will not sit by and let this happen. I know many other people that share this view.

The "hate crimes" provision would make "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" federally protected classes. A person accused of "prejudice based on the actual or perceived ... sexual orientation" or "gender identity" of a victim would face more severe penalties than a person accused of murdering their grandmother... This creates a class system of victims with preferences for those who choose to engage in unnatural sex acts.

So is a fag comes up and gropes me, he is protected under the law. When I bash his head in for doing so, I get charged with a felony?

Authoritative descriptions of "sexual orientation" have included crimin

al acts such as necrophilia and pedophilia.

Same scenario with your kids. A pedophile is protected under the law, while you defending your children is a "hate crime." There is no such thing as a hate crime. A crime is a crime. You have to hate to cause harm to someone. This simply extends special rights to anyone besides white Christians.

"The Defense Authorization bill should fund our national defense. Period. This 'hate crimes' provision grants special rights to certain political groups and could give cover to criminal behavior. This exploitation of a bill to fund our national defense shamelessly places homosexual groups' demands equal to or more important than our military," stated Wendy Wright, President of Concerned Women for America.

Thank you Concerned women of America. You are doing this country a great service by promoting this.

"'Hate crime' laws unduly expand the federal government. These crimes are already fully prosecuted by the states. 'Hate crime' laws allow prosecution for the same act twice, violating the Constitutional protection against Double Jeopardy. It creates a class of 'special' preferred victims, denying equal protection to other victims. It could cover every kind of sexual behavior, granting protected status even for pedophiles. And homosexual activists admit the whole effort is a scam to raise money and political power," Wright noted.

This will ultimately backfire on these pro-homosexual people causing the until now silent majority to turn against the queer minority where before they were able to live in our society unnoticed.

"Mary Stachowicz was brutally raped, stabbed and strangled to death by a homosexual man. Yet under this provision, this grandmother would be treated as less of a victim than an adult homosexual man who accuses a grandmother of swatting him."

I Believe this will ultimately lead to rioting and violence against those trying to take undeserved political rights when they already have a level playing field.

Concerned Women for America is the nation's largest public policy women's organization.

I hope they continue getting this message out. This will hurt women as well as men. This will also hurt racial minorities who will also get blamed for this. Taking equal rights from the majority to give rights to a minority is a recipe for a loss of civil rights for everybody which will lead to anger and violence. Nothing good will come of the concept of the hate crime. Let Me make myself perfectly clear: If you want to be homosexual, keep it out of my face and in your own house. Do not think for one minute that we will sit idly by while you and you DC lackeys make special protections for you at the expense of my God given rights.